6-Jan

How the 10 Year Treasury Yields Affect The Stock Market

[ This post comes from Gregory K – a long-term Member in Florida ]

Stock markets and bond markets usually go in opposite directions. During a bond market rally, the stock market drops causing the yield to go lower — so if you hear or see a bond market rally, yields should drop. When the bond market crashes, like in March 2020 the yields rose. It was at this time the Federal Reserve stepped in and slashed rates. Their thinking was that they wanted to backstop the economy and prevent any further economic damage and stimulate growth. In a strong economy, there is great demand for money so interest rates rise in response. The 10 year is the proxy for all borrowing. If you follow the chart that is included you can see yield went from the low of 3.98 to 16.53.  What that means is that for every $1,000.00 the yield rate on the 10 year was .398% March 2020 and now 1.653% as of this print. So if you bought a 10 year Treasury in $1,000 increments the U.S. Government would pay you 1.653% twice a year for 10 years plus your original investment of $1,000 at the end of 10 years. This type of investment has extremely low risk and payment is backed by the U.S. Treasury.

 

When the economy is weak, companies post weak earnings and investors sell their stocks to put money in conservative investments such as bonds. For that reason normally you will see bond prices rise and stock prices fall. And when prices rise, yields drop. In a nutshell this makes money less expensive for borrowers and serves to help a weak economy recover. During this time individuals take advantage of low rates and buy homes, durable goods and cars. Companies tend to repay debt, refinance debt, buy back stock and invest in their companies infrastructure to expand operations.

As the economy becomes stronger so do companies and they begin to start to post good earnings.  With good earnings the stock market rallies. When the investors see this taking place they are willing to take on more risk and sell their bonds and move back into the market and buy stocks hoping for price appreciation at a better return than they were getting on their bonds. The selling of bonds drives the price of bonds down and moves the yields higher.

In the years after the credit crisis of 2008 the Federal Reserve began a series of quantitative easing a.k.a QE1, QE2, and QE3. It was designed to add money to the nation's money supply. This helped spur the economic recovery and to keep interest rates low.  Basically the Reserve was creating dollars by buying their own Treasury debt in the open market and printing dollars. When the Fed bought a significant amount of bonds the bond market rallied. This is all called monetization of debt. During the QES, corporations borrowed money at a cheap rate and that helped them post strong profits in a relatively weak time in our economy. As stated before, strong profits result in a stock market rally.

Institutional investors were able to buy stocks on margin. They borrowed other people's money, (think broker) to buy stocks at historically low margin rates, which allowed them to make greater profits on the investments using other people's money. Stocks rallied in part due to the institutional demand and during the same time the bond market also rallied driving yields down.

Now, as Alex and Kerry like to say, let's look at the charts.

The weekly 10 year chart shows a yield low of 3.98 in March of 2020, (Chart #1),  at the beginning of the pandemic.  Since that time we have had 5 higher lows. The last higher low was actually $14.15 and then we saw a handle that broke below the 50DMA to $13.43 and consolidated for about 4 weeks and recovered/upthrust top side the 50DMA.The green arrow demonstrates the stock market rally after yield collapsed. We are now approaching some resistance at $17.65 and $19.22.  The 50DMA has acted as support since June/July 2021. We have been in a consolidation pattern since the middle of February 2021 until now. During that time yields ranged from a high of $17.65 to a low of $11.38. On January 5, 2021 we reached a high of $17.05 and the markets sold off heavily. In my own opinion I would be surprised if the Spike Bounce doesn't get extinguished in the next 2 days. 

The NASDAQ ETF is generally an ETF of growth stocks. Growth stocks tend to be more sensitive to fluctuations in the Treasury Yield. Based on the consolidation box the last 3 yield highs have led to a recoil in price on the NASDAQ. Today at the close the NASDAQ was slammed while the Yield closed at $17.05. (See QQQ Chart #2)

 

I've included two charts one of the 10 year yield, showing Spike Bounce triggers beginning in June 2021, (Chart #3), and the same 10 Year chart showing previous Spike Bounces that ended.  (Chart #4)

I look at price first and then patterns.  Like an old photo album you begin to see familiar faces, I too believe we may be seeing the end of this bull run and maybe the start of a bear market.

Please note this is my first blog.  This is a work in progress and hopefully helpful to everyone. I will try to expand on this at a later date and as data becomes available.

 

15 Comments

  • Steve S.
    Posted January 6, 2022 5:36 pm 0Likes

    I know that we have seen a few bearish fundamental signals along with some technicals triggering a sell. And in short term, I completely agree the market is weak. Bearish divergences continue to show up in many indicators. But, as we have seen this for a long time, dips haven’t been deep or too violent. The weekly -1.5ATR, weekly 8-ema, or weekly 21-ema have been holding as support. Until we see a clear change of character, I think it maybe too soon to call for a bear market.
    So far, the daily chart is still in an uptrend, above -1Atr, no lower high, no lower lows.
    Have your hard stops in place to protect your longs, but still think consider pullbacks and corrections as a buying opportunity as long as the longer term trend is intact.

  • Gregory K.
    Posted January 7, 2022 8:56 am 0Likes

    Steve S. and Bill M. Thanks for your comments. Steve S., I should have been more clear on my observations. I should have limited my comments about the pending “Bear Market”, and limited it to growth stocks and the Nasdaq. Actually I don’t like using bear markets but instead a change in trend. I believe that on the daily chart the short term trend may have changed. Will this lead to a bear market? That is to be seen. For now being on the right side of the trend is critically important. I come to my conclusions based on what I learned from Stan Weinstein and what he talks about the “weight of the evidence”. Short term, many of the growth stocks have been bombed out or are under pressure. The Nasdaq on the weekly as of yesterday is below the 8-ema and slightly above the 21-ema @ 19,342. On 12-6-21 the daily low was 19,798 and on 1-5-2022, the print date of my blog was 19,502. That is a lower high. Yesterday we had a tail to the -3ATR to 19,095 (temporarily taking out the weekly 21 ema), with that daily bar recovering and closing @ 19,546, barely taking out the previous day close. That is unimpressive and suspicious in my view, especially when you look at the QQQs and see that yesterday’s close failed to take out the previous day’s close. The MACD signal lines on both the daily and weekly are negative and widening. Yield is up slightly this morning. Of note yield is slightly outside the +3ATR. In the past they have come in after reaching that point and back to value. With the Fed jawboning I believe that the momentum now is for yields to move up further. Looking at the weight of the evidence it appears to tell me that the short term trend has changed in growth. Today’s weekly bar close will tell us if that is going t be longer term. If not, I’m ok with that. Ideally I would like to see price move up and give the bulls one last chance. I am reminded of something David Weis once said, and I’m paraphrasing. This will be the moment when you over the edge, looking into the canyon at the danger point where the risk is the least and the rewards are the greatest. If yield comes in, and I doubt it will by much, that may be just enough to trigger a rally and what’s needed for me to take a short trade on the Nasdaq/QQQ. It may look like something Dr. Elder has talked about a lot recently false breakout to the upside. Happy Trading!

  • Steve S.
    Posted January 7, 2022 11:58 am 0Likes

    Gregory K,
    This is a note from M. Minervini who is friends with Stan Weinstein.
    “ Some feel that the impending rate hike represents the death knell to the bull market. However, as I have previously pointed out, history suggests otherwise as evidenced by how the market performed after the last seven initial rate hikes going back to 1987 (see below table). This does not mean the market won’t correct. But it does suggest a market correction will likely present a buying opportunity.”
    In the table , over the last 7 occasions, 12-month avg gain is10%, and 6 out of 7 were positive. .
    So, I see all the warning signs right now, and believe me I see the growth stocks blood bath , but so far I have seen bears getting killed at every opportunity consistently (on the index). Maybe its the Fed, maybe it’s the Megacap effect, etc, but SP500 can keep building negative divergences for a long time that don’t lead to a major correction.

  • Gregory K.
    Posted January 7, 2022 2:04 pm 0Likes

    Steve. S. I feel like we are trading in the pits. Although what we are trading are thoughts and ideas. Thank You for your’s.

    I hour ago, M. Minervini tweetd, “Based on a few select indexes or stocks, some may conclude that the market is healthy. That opinion is likely coming from those who have been in the right place at the right time; congrats! But market participation is scant and there are bear market % declines in MANY names.” Furthermore, he in fact put out a sell signal for the S&P back in late November.

    I just can’t help stop thinking about all of the margin debt that has been pilling in this market since the lMarch 2020 ows. It is now an Effiel Tower, a parabolic rise. When the correction comes and it will, the first to be lopped off is margin debt . Forced sales will cause an avalanche and it will be brutal.

    1987 is a long time ago, the markets and our ecconomy couldn’t be anymore different. The market to me really feels like the late innings. The bull looks tired.

    In closing the S&P has been held up by a few stocks. Nearly 26% of the S&P is made up of AAPL, MSFT, AMZN, FB,Googl A shares, Googl C shares, Tsla, NVDA. The same group for the Nasdaq 100 is nearly 42% and for AAPL every $1.00 move in AAPL that is 16.4 billion dollar market cap. That’s a lot of juice. I dare say that these companies have been holding up the indicies. When they come for these watch out!

    In the end all that matters is price and evidence to support the current price. I am looking for a trend change and then once that is confirmed, I will be ready for the turn.

    BTW can you tell me wher I can see that chart you mentioned?

  • Gregory K.
    Posted January 7, 2022 5:49 pm 0Likes

    Richard F. Great question!
    10-year Treasury is a bond that guarantees interest plus repayment of the borrowed money in a decade.

    Treasury notes or T-notes, are issued with maturities of two, three, five, seven and 10 years. They pay interest every six months and return their face value at maturity.

    The rate you are paid is based on the coupon rate. In this case what ever the annual coupon rate is, divide that by 2 and that’s your expected payment.

    Today’s yield I think closed at 1.76 and your coupon rate would be 1.38.

  • Steve S.
    Posted January 7, 2022 10:51 pm 0Likes

    Gregory K,
    Completely agree on late stage tiring bull and the Mega Caps holding up the index. I call the Fangam stocks the new defensive sector. When you see carnage in growth stocks, you would expect defensive sectors like utilities and staples to be up. Instead , money flows into big tech megacaps and the index keeps marching higher.

  • Gregory K.
    Posted January 8, 2022 11:13 am 0Likes

    Bill M. I am not familiar with the IBD psychological indicators. I do want to share a couple of websites that may help you.

    One is from FINRA, https://www.finra.org/investors/learn-to-invest/advanced-investing/margin-statistics

    The next has a great discussion and charts. I enjoyed this read this this morning. https://www.finra.org/investors/learn-to-invest/advanced-investing/margin-statistics

    On December 3, 2021 Barron’s had a nice article about margin debt featuring Dr. Yardeni’s research on the subject.

    I don’t use margin statistcs for timing the market or trading. I do absorbs such information and maintain that in my file manager.

    And as for the 10 year yield I watch that chart on a different screen just to keep an eye on an monitor through out the day. If the market trend changes and it is confirmed, imy opnion is that selling will quickly accelerate, because of the nearly 1 trillion in margin debt.

    Thanks for your question.

  • Grant C.
    Posted January 8, 2022 6:33 pm 0Likes

    Great discussion all. Thanks for the insights. With the tech selloff so deep, logic suggests a vicious reaction rally as shorts cover. After that, we’ll see. Of curiosity, bank stocks are up on the potential rate increase. On the other hand utilities are strong–clearly a lack of agreement on which way interest rates are headed. Actually, I suggest the key driver of the market is whether a pandemic recovery is in the cards, or not.

  • Gregory K.
    Posted January 8, 2022 7:40 pm 0Likes

    Bill M. I’m sorry I forgot to add this link. This is for the read I mentioned with charts from my morning posting/response. I accidentally posted the FINRA link twice.

    https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2021/12/14/margin-debt-down-1-8-in-november-still-near-record-highs

  • Gregory K.
    Posted January 9, 2022 3:00 pm 0Likes

    Thanks everyone for your comments and questions. I’ve really enjoyed them and learning some good stuff. Best of luck on your picks and if you have anymore questions just hit me up.

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